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Dirty, rotten scoundrels…

I ran a search on IMDB.com to look for movie quotes about villains and came across the following. “One man’s villain is another man’s hero.” It’s from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and admittedly my experience with Star Trek is bleak at best, but whichever character said these words was oh-so-wise. You could take that one step forward and say that every villain believes himself (or herself) to be the hero in their own story.

I have far more experience with creating swoon-worthy heroes and heroines you’d love to be friends with, but I do know some things about villains. First, they should be as strong as your hero (or heroine, if they case may be). This doesn’t have to mean brute strength, it could be a battle of the wits, but they must be evenly matched or else when the hero wins the reader won’t be too impressed.

Secondly, they need the same elements your hero and heroine need minus one thing. This means they need a believable GMC – they need to be after something for a specific reason and they need conflict. The only think they’re missing is that character arc. They have no growth. That’s the main difference between heroes and villains when you boil it down to the basics. Heroes need to grow and change and villains don’t. (Obviously if you want to turn them into heroes at some point, then this “rule” won’t apply.) I’d add here that you really should focus on the villain’s motivation and make it as strong as possible. If you don’t understand why they do the crazy things they do, then your reader won’t either. Keep in mind that being totally bad, doesn’t mean they’re totally evil. They can have normal, functioning relationships with other people, for example, it’s just when it comes down to what they want and your hero or heroine getting in their way – they just won’t allow that. So they might be protective over their sister, but try to kill the heroine. The same action can co-exist in the same character if you properly motivate them.

There are plenty of wonderful books out there without any villains at all and that’s perfectly okay. But if there is a bad guy, personally I want him to be really bad. Think of John Doe in the movie Seven. He’s methodical and brilliant and so creepy my critique partner actually wishes the movie had never been made. Or consider Cruella Deville, yes, she’s a villainess for a children’s movie, yet still she’s firmly on the disturbing side. What about Voldemort, any redeeming qualities there? Nope, not even a glimmer. Those are the best baddies, in my opinion.

So while some authors will take a baddie from a previous book and then redeem them as a hero in another, that hasn’t been an option for my bad guys. Nope, no reformed villain turned heroes for me. At least not yet.

But I will admit that my latest villain, David Grey, aka “The Raven” truly tempted me in that direction. He’s so deliciously nasty, so compelling, I almost want to redeem him, discover the sort of woman that could soften that black heart of his. Almost, but not quite. For the time being I’ll let him stay within the pages of Seduce Me causing mayhem and all sorts of dangers for Fielding and Esme on their quest for Pandora’s Box. (that’s the inspiration picture for the Raven that I used because how can you go wrong with Alan Rickman?)

How about you? What do you look for in villains? And do you like it when authors redeem their baddies and give them their own happy endings?

**this content originally posted on http://dreyslibrary.blogspot.com/ on my blog tour.

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  1. Margo Maguire Said:

    I like completely UNredeemable villains. I prefer not to see them come back in another book as the hero (or heroine). That just never works for me.

    Great post on villains, Robyn!

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  2. kristan higgins Said:

    Thank you for the Alan Rickman picture, Robyn! Sigh…ever since Sense & Sensibility, I’ve nursed a huge crush on him.

    I find the “I’m pure evil” villains are kind of dull. I like to know how they got to be so dang bad, and even if they’re irredeemable, that they have more than Pure Evil running through their veins. A sense of humor always makes a villain more interesting to me.

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  3. Rainy Said:

    Sometimes I feel like a nut…sometimes I don’t…(that’s my villain attitude).
    Sometimes I am happy to have that basic good vs evil combustion. It’s very satisfying to just wipe the dust off your hands when the villain is destroyed or thwarted. The absolute biggest pet peeve I have with movie evil villains (like Jason,Halloween, whatever) is that no matter what, good never seems to vanquish evil. It’s gonna come back as a sequel. Hate that.
    I think a villain, just like any major character needs to be well rounded. A complication or specific characteristic will only make him/her more interesting.
    But sometimes a villain can be drawn with frailties or qualities that makes you wonder and can feel some empathy, despite yourself. So when the author brings out a backstory that shows he/she is not such a villain because of (????) that can also be satisfying because redemption is a happy and satisfying ending.
    And sometimes the author solves their internal problems with this by redeeming the villain and then killing them off anyway.

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  4. Shana Said:

    Good post. It’s so important to remmeber that villains need motivation. They can’t just do bad things because you need something exciting in that chapter. I mean, they can do that, but it has to make sense. Now…maybe I should go check that my bad guy has some motivation!

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  5. EmilyMcKay Said:

    Great post, Robyn! And can I just say how much I love The Raven! he’s one of my all time favorite villains (the other’s being Voldemort (of course!) and the Master Criminal in the Amelia Peabody series.)
    I just love, love, love the Raven. I want her to bring him back in other books, not as the hero but as a villain in those books too.
    Having said that, I do agree with Rainy on the Jason/Halloween style villains. But I don’t like scary movies anyway. (that person Robyn mentioned who wishes Seven had never been made … yeah, that’s me. That movie was evil.)

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  6. catslady Said:

    Many times I find myself routing for the villian. I guess I’ve always had a thing for bad boys lol. But obviously there has to be something or some reason such as it not really being their fault (i.e. bit by a vampire) or in the end they may save the heroine etc. And then there are time I just feel sorry for them – I’m such a sucker lol.

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  7. Jennifer August Said:

    I admit I waffled the entire book on whether Raven would end up good or bad. I’m also the girl who didn’t want Snape to be bad in HP:6 and was thrilled to find I was right in HP:7.
    I like it when SOME villains are redeemed, but usually only if their vileness was prompted by some sort of emotional turmoil AND they showed signs of remorse. Sort of steeling himself to commit this act. He doesn’t do it for pleasure, he does it for purpose. But when a hero is really bad he darn well better get his comeuppance. Never turn into a snake (didn’t work for Thulsa Doom in Conan) and never leave the bad guy alive. He’ll just come after you later!

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  8. Angela Frawley Said:

    I have only read a couple of books where the hero is an old villain,they were o.k.,but usually I enjoy really disliking a bad guy. I can’t fall head over heels for them like I do with the good guys! I aways remember what bad thing they did and unfortunatly I hold a grudge.( the one I remember,he was very young as a bad guy and he learned a lesson, was wayyy older in his own book and had turned out o.k.)
    Love your hero in A Study In Scandal; A Sherlock Holmes type. wonderfully delicious!!!
    Angela
    made4books@yahoo.com

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  9. Jennifer August Said:

    D’oh, of course I meant when a VILLAIN is really bad… :oops:

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  10. Maire Said:

    Two of my all time favorite villains come from the master. Shakespeare that is. Iago and Richard III. They’re just so deliciously bad and oh so charming. You can fee them weaving their magic spell around you, seducing you in, begging you to love them. Trying to convince you of how sound their logic is. They’re far more interesting than the heroes. Villains are just the best heroes gone horribly wrong.

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